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'Why does no one question the politician-militant nexus?' (Interview with VK Nayar)

'Why does no one question the politician-militant nexus?' (Interview with VK Nayar)

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Publication: Tehelka
Date: September 6, 2008
URL: http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=cr060908whydoesnoone.asp

Q.: Has the AFSPA succeeded in achieving its goals in the past 50 years of its implementation in the Northeast?
A.: The question is motivated. Don't examine the issue in isolation. There would have been total chaos had the AFSPA not been in place. This is not an ideal situation but it is definitely not the worst situation possible. The law isn't bad, but we need to examine its implementation under these trying circumstances.

Q.: How would you characterise the unprecedented civic protests against this Act, especially in Manipur?
A.: Agitators should question their representatives who run to the Centre every time the question of repealing the Act arises. The army can return to the barracks but who will manage the situation then? We always become the whipping boys. In the last two decades, certain new realities have emerged. Civil society is angry about these issues but vested elements like politicians and insurgents are trying to hijack these issues.

Q.: Do you agree with people when they call the Act 'draconian'?
A.: People cite history and call the AFSPA a replica of a repressive British Act. If they want the Army to function, the Act has to be there. We can't function under the IPC alone. The police has failed in these extraordinary circumstances. I cannot ask a boxer to fight with his hands tied and accept his opponent's blows. Mizoram is trouble-free and yesterday's militants are ruling the state. The same law was there in Mizoram, yet nobody calls it draconian there.

Q.: What is your response to Human Rights Watch's report which asks the government to repeal the AFSPA?
A.: Personally, I am unbothered by any international pressure. Why does no one question the politician-militant nexus, or, for that matter, what happens to the huge sums of money pumped into the region for its development?

Q.: There have been instances of human rights violations against women and children that the Act has made possible. How can the security agencies defend this?
A.: I am not defending anyone. If there are violations against women and children, the law will take its course. The Manorama case is being investigated and I have full sympathy for her. People are heartlessly using Irom Sharmila to further their cause.

Q.: Do you agree that human rights violations have served to act as a recruiting agent for militant groups?
A.: It is no longer an insurgency in the northeast. The militants are criminals today with no cause or ideology. In the long run the politicians' vested interests rule and become a money, power game.

Q.: If we can't repeal the Act, can we not amend it?
A.: The Act has been instituted with a purpose. One has to examine the repercussions of any amendment and how it will affect the functioning of the Armed Forces. Both sides have to sit across the table to find an alternative.

Q.: What is the future of the Act?
A.: Unless the situation improves the Act will remain in force - and things are not improving.


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